In this episode we're sharing our final content from Salt Lake Gaming Con.  We start with an interview with Amy from Devun's Dragons.  Devun's Dragons is a project using established psychology principles and role playing games to create a system, and playable world, that encourages communication, growth, self awareness, and hope. Devun's Dragons is a non-profit set up in honor of 19 year old suicide prevention and youth advocate,  Devun Hansen.  Devun lost his own battle in August of 2018. In the second part of this episode we share the Level Up Learning Panel in which we talk about how we teach our kids using games!